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Offline blackrunner91

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About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« on: February 05, 2008, 06:01:59 PM »
I am just about to get started collecting parts for my swap.  I just got my 3vz sold and it will be coming out Friday night.  I have a couple of questions before I get started though.  First, if i bought a Japanese half-cut, would it be as good as sourcing my engine from a US spec vehicle?  Second, is there a parts list somewhere so I will know exactly what parts I will need if I gather them individually.  I've been doing a ton of reading, but I still have a lot of questions. 
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 10:02:40 AM »
Louis, where do you live? I just started to collect my parts for the swap. I'm going to buy a JDM from Ebay when the time comes. I'm in Kansas and with shipping its about $730 or so from CO. This guy is on ebay, wants $550 or buy it now for like $575. The only problem is that you don't get any Accessories but you get a very low mile engine. Also no EGR stuff, which is not a big deal for me since I'm in Kansas. They don't care what kind of engine you swap or emissions to pass.  I have not really found a parts list. I have a good idea of the main parts you will need from just reading people's posts. Are you doing a  SAS at the same time? later, Mike

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 10:06:30 AM »
On the JDM motor, one local junk yard wanted $350 for a motor but it had well over 130k. Another one about a hour away wanted $700 or $1,000 for a motor with 88k. I may pick up the $350 one some day for spare and use some of the accessories. I still think the JDM is a good way to go for a low mile, clean engine. Are you going with a stick or auto?
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 06:06:55 PM »
I am in North Alabama. I was thinking that I'd buy a totaled SC400 or LS400, but I'm having a hard time finding one.  The JDM engine may be the best way to go.  I'm pretty sure I know what all I need.  Mine will be solid swapped in the future, but I want the engine swap done first.  The truck will also be automatic.  Anyways, any words of wisdom from anyone?

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 01:52:27 AM »
Louis,

I'd agree that buying a totaled Lexus is probably the best route since you'll have all the parts you might need.  But finding one can be tough, especially depending where you live.  I'm in Albuquerque and have yet to find an LS/SC400 in any of the local yards, let alone a complete junked car.

From what I've seen, JDM motors are nice & clean and seem like a good option.  Unfortunately, I had to worry about emissions, so I sourced a motor from a US-spec vehicle.  I bought a complete motor on eBay from a low-mile 97 SC400 for about $1000.  It came with everything – all accessories, uncut harness, etc.  However, in retrospect I probably would've been better off finding a comparable engine with no/some accessories and buying them on my own.  Even though this motor came with everything, it was pretty evident it had been sitting outside for some time.  Everything was rusted/corroded.  I've spent most of my time cleaning all the accessories & engine block.  I did take the starter & alternator to Checker Auto and they both tested good, which was surprising based off how bad they looked from the outside. 

As far as a parts list, I'm sure you got the basics, like a new water pump, timing belt, etc.  Bigger stuff like a radiator, transmission, electric fan(s), etc are pretty much application specific.  I've had to change my list around a little since deciding to put my 1UZ into a 91 FJ80 instead of a 98 4Runner.

Anyway, hope that helps.  Good luck with your swap!!
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 05:56:37 PM »
Chewy, thanks for the advice.  I think I might go the JDM route if no totalled cars pop up.  Here's what I THINK that I need, but please tell me if I've forgot something. 
-Engine.
-All engine mounted accessories.
-Igniters (2)
-AFM
-ECU
-Wiring harness
-Custom exhaust
-Motor mounts
-Fuel pump?
-Bellhousing, Torque converter, Input shaft, and oil pump.

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 01:34:49 AM »
That sounds like a pretty complete list to me.  Depending on what you're doing for cooling, I might add electric fans and maybe even a new radiator to the list.

Are you planning on using your 340H tranny?  If so, then this is a good read if you haven't gone over it already- http://www.uzswap.com/index.php?topic=55.0  I'm pretty sure you'd just need the Bellhousing, Torque converter, Input shaft, and oil pump.  But you might want to double check with toylexus or Cebby.

If I were putting my motor into the 98 4Runner, I'd go the same route as Cebby with regards to using a 340F tranny.

As far as the fuel pump, I'm still up in the air on that one.  I would think a stock V6 fuel pump should be able to handle the fuel requirements for the 1UZ, but I'm not certain.  I'm still trying to figure out if I'll need a fuel pump ECU since my motor is out of a 97 and it's going into a 91 vehicle.  Hopefully someone else will chime in!!

Chewy
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 04:54:57 AM »
Make sure you get the fuel pump ECU if when you get your engine. I used the factory V6 fuel pump in the tank, wired it up in the kick panel near where the ECU fits and made a custom fuel line that runs from the tank to the crossmember behind across that and up the other rail and I relocated the fuel filter to the other side as well, works a treat!

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 08:38:11 PM »
Thanks for the help.  Where is the fuel ecu located on the lexus cars?  I have to buy a new radiator anyways because my stock one is leaking and I already have an electric fan on the truck, so that's taken care of.  I was looking at using the stock lexus transmission and then adding the adapter for the transfer case later after the swap is done and the bugs are worked out.  Here is a new idea for some of you.  I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but inchworm gear now has a billet transfer case adapter to add a gear driven transfer case to any toyota automatic 2wd transmission.  Check out www.inchwormgear.com.  That's kinda what I had in mind since I already have a spare transfer case.  The adapter is a little high though in my opinion.  $700 ouch.

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 08:53:32 PM »
I thought about Inchworms adapter but it costs a ton. I have heard some bad things about their adapters. Marlin's adapter is around $350 I think. You have to add up the cost of the 2wd trans and inchworms adapter vs marlin's/30-40LE with the parts from a 2wd trans. I'm going with a 30-40LE because I wanted a low miles auto to start with. When I'm done with the trans with the tcase adapter I should be around $700 or $800.

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 05:20:40 AM »
I think it located in the boot somewhere, if you can go back through my post's, I put a picture up on here (for Cebby I think) that will give you an Idea what it looks like, My Truck is a manual so it was a fairly easy conversion
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 08:49:19 AM »
I thought about Inchworms adapter but it costs a ton. I have heard some bad things about their adapters. Marlin's adapter is around $350 I think. You have to add up the cost of the 2wd trans and inchworms adapter vs marlin's/30-40LE with the parts from a 2wd trans. I'm going with a 30-40LE because I wanted a low miles auto to start with. When I'm done with the trans with the tcase adapter I should be around $700 or $800.

I have inchworms prerunner adapter.  All it is consists of is an advanced adapter unit to mate a Toyota tcase to a TH350 gm transmission.  Inchworm adds a billet aluminium adapter to mate the Toyota transmission to the transmission side of the advanced adapter unit.   I chose this route to eliminate the need to resolve any electrical communication issues with the a340f Transmission.  Plus the Lexus transmission has heavier clutches for the v8.  You need an adapter one way or the other and my parts cars all came with good trannys.
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 09:16:20 PM »
Okay, so Ksuyota, if I understand you right, marlin makes the same type of adapter?  I didn't think that they made one that would work like that.  I thought that the only ones that they had were to adapt one t-case to another.  I'll check that route out.  Basically, I'm trying to figure out how to use the stock lexus trans and add a t-case.  Pretty much just so that the trans wiring will be very easy.(Plug-n-play).

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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 10:44:34 PM »
I think the only adapter that marlin offers is one that adapts the output on an A340f 4wd transmission to an older right side drop gear driven transfer case.  You would need to source the rear output portion of an a340f and install it on your Lexus 2wd tranny in order for the Marlin adapter to work. The only other adapter that will work is called a gearslug.    www.gearslug.com   This was designed to allow an A340H to adapt to a gear driven tcase but since it bolts directly to the transmission housing without any output it should also work with the Lexus 2wd tranny.  I have not tested this theory however and I have no idea how much it sells for.
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Re: About to get started... '93 4Runner swap
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 11:43:48 PM »
blackrunner91, I'm talking about marlin makes a adapter to mate a gear tcase on a A340F. I just picked up my A340F tonight, I have not had much time to look at it yet. I'm going to start taking it apart and work on wiring it up.

Toyminator, the adapter marlin makes is for a gear tcase on a A340F. I don't think Gearslug is around anymore. I sent them a email like mid last summer and never got a email back. Inchworm also makes a adapter for any 2wd auto or one for the A340H. The A340F is a much better trans since the tcase is not part of the transmission like a A340H. I don't think the Gearslug will work on the 2wd tranny since it is not a hydraulic trans like the A340H. I might be wrong since I have not seen a A340H apart from the tcase. 

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